Discover more in these hand-picked books Tell me what you think; read what others say.  
Stuff you need to know before the POCM makes sense. Ideas, rituals and myths Christianity boosted from the Pagans. Some of the Pagan's dying-resurrected godmen The Triumph of Christianity Discover mainstream scholarship about Christianity's Pagan origins What did the Christians borrow? So what?
the ideas, myths and rituals christianity borrowed from the pagans Jesus saves -- Pagan Gods saved first gods whose dad was a god and whose mom was a mortal woman Christianity has baptism -- Paganism had it first Christians share a sacred meal with their God -- Pagans did it first Christians believe in eternal life -- but Paganism believed in it first
home > pagan origins > heaven
Jesus did miracles -- Pagan Gods did them first Jesus fulfilled prophecy -- Pagan Gods fulfilled prophecy first God and the immortal soul -- Paganism had 'em first Christianity thinks it has monotheism -- Paganism had it first Jesus' God lives in Heaven on High -- Pagan Gods lived there first pagan dead went to the underworld Jesus made clever quips -- Pagan cynic philosophers made them first
Heaven on High -- Pagan Gods lived there first


Let's discuss Pagan and Christian ideas about the shape of the universe.


The Earth, the ancients believed, is at the center of the universe, surrounded by the orbits of the heavenly spheres. A great hierarchy reaches from the Earth up through the spheres of the seven planets (Moon, Mercury, Venus, etc.) to the fixed sphere of the timeless and unchanging stars. The Earth is imperfect; the heavenly spheres are perfect -- they're the realm of God.

 

Christians adopted the Pagan cosmology jot and tittle The Earth is the center of the universe. The moon, sun, planets and stars go around the Earth in perfect circles attached to perfect celestial spheres -- the heavens had to be perfect because they are the realm of God.

For the ancients, people are composed of body, soul, and divine intellect. At death the soul and intellect ascend to the moon, leaving the outer shell of the body back on Earth. The divine intellect leaves the soul on the moon and rises to the sphere of the sun and God.

For the ancients this wasn't allegory, it was the rational and literal explanation of the physical structure of the universe -- and man's place in it.

For Christians, people are composed of body and soul. At death the soul ascends to heaven, leaving the outer shell of the body back on Earth. The soul ascends to heaven and the sphere of God.

  

For the Christians for 1700 years this wasn't allegory, it was the rational and literal explanation of the physical structure of the universe -- and man's place in it. So when Galileo saw and described mountains on the moon and moons orbiting Jupiter -- both observable facts disproving the divine perfection of the heavens -- he shook the foundations of the west's three thousand of year old Pagan-Christian cosmology. He published Dialogue on the Two Chief World Systems in 1632; the next year the Church banned the book and tried Galileo for heresy.

If Heaven were a real place, the way the Pagans and early Christians thought, you could see it with a telescope, you could go there. But when you look through a telescope, you don't see Heaven, you see the Earth and planets circling the sun. Now do you see why the Catholic bishops were so highly pissed at Galileo? His experiments destroyed ideas fundamental to their religion.

Now when you read about God on High and Jesus ascending into heaven and coming down from Heaven, you'll know where the notions comes from.